My neighbor's doctor took her OFF Lisinopril and Metoprolol after 14 years and her BP went DOWN. Then she told me why he finally did it.
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My neighbor Linda called me three weeks ago.
Her voice had energy I hadn't heard in years.
She's 67. She'd been on Lisinopril and Metoprolol for 14 years.
Same medications, same doses, every single morning.
Her blood pressure was always erratic.
One day: 158/92
Next day: 110/68
The day after: 145/88
She was exhausted all the time. Could barely make it to 2pm without needing to sit down.
Her doctor kept saying the medications were "managing it."
But Linda felt worse on the pills than she did before she started taking them.
Then two months ago, something changed.
Her doctor took her OFF both medications.
After 14 years of taking them faithfully every single day.
**Her blood pressure went down.**
Not up. Down.
Within four weeks, her readings were 128 to 135. Consistently.
More stable than they'd been in over a decade.
I asked her how that was even possible.
**"My doctor finally told me why."**
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# After 14 years on medications, her blood vessels had stopped working on their own
Linda's doctor sat her down at her last appointment.
He pulled up her BP log from the past six months.
Readings all over the place. 145. 112. 158. 105. 150.
"Linda," he said. "These medications are managing your numbers. But they're not fixing why your pressure swings."
She told him she'd been taking Lisinopril and Metoprolol exactly as prescribed for 14 years.
He nodded.
**"That's the problem."**
He explained something she'd never heard before.
"Your blood vessels are supposed to make something called nitric oxide. It tells your vessels when to relax and when to tighten. That's how healthy people keep their blood pressure steady all day."
==**"But after 14 years on these medications, your vessels stopped making it on their own."**==
Linda asked him what he meant.
He said it like this:
"When you use a wheelchair for years, your leg muscles get weak. They forget how to hold you up. Your vessels did the same thing."
**Lisinopril blocks the signals that make vessels tighten.**
**Metoprolol slows your heart down.**
Both medications do the work FOR your vessels.
So your vessels stopped doing the work themselves.
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After 14 years, her body had forgotten how to regulate blood pressure on its own.
The medications weren't protecting her anymore.
~~~They were preventing her from healing.~~~
Linda sat there stunned.
"So what do I do?" she asked.
Her doctor said something I'll never forget.
"We need to teach your body to work again. Not keep forcing it."
I'd never heard of nitric oxide before Linda told me this.
So I looked it up.
**Nitric oxide is a molecule your blood vessels produce naturally.**
It tells your vessels when to relax and when to tighten.
When you have enough nitric oxide, your vessels adjust automatically all day long.
That's how people with healthy blood pressure keep it steady.
130 in the morning. 128 in the afternoon. 132 at night.
Their bodies regulate it without thinking about it.
But when you've been on blood pressure medications for years, something changes.
**Your vessels stop making nitric oxide.**
Here's why:
**Amlodipine** forces your blood vessels to relax chemically for about six hours.
Then it wears off.
Your vessels tighten back up.
You take another pill.
**Losartan** blocks the chemical signals in your body that tell vessels to tighten.
So your vessels never get the signal.
**Metoprolol** slows down your heart rate to lower the pressure.
All three medications work.
But here's what they DON'T do.
**None of them help your body make nitric oxide again.**
# Your medications work. But they're creating the instability they're supposed to prevent.
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Think about it.
Amlodipine wears off after six hours. Your vessels tighten.
Metoprolol is strongest at night when you take it. Weakest in the afternoon.
Losartan blocks signals, but it doesn't teach your vessels to respond naturally.
Your blood pressure swings 30 to 50 points in a single day because your medications wear off at different times.
**Your body isn't regulating. The pills are.**
**And the pills stop working at different times all day long.**
That's why your readings bounce.
That's why your doctor keeps adding more medications or increasing the dose.
He's trying to cover the gaps.
But more medication doesn't fix the root problem.
!!Your vessels have forgotten how to make nitric oxide on their own.!!
And until they remember, your readings will keep swinging.
Linda's doctor told her there was a way to restart nitric oxide production.
But it wasn't another pill.
Your body needs two specific things to make nitric oxide naturally again:
**1. An activation signal**
Something that turns the switch back ON.
Something that tells your blood vessels, "Start making nitric oxide again."
**2. The raw materials**
Your body needs the fuel to actually produce nitric oxide once the switch is on.
Without both, nothing happens.
It's like having a car with a dead battery and no gas.
You need the spark AND the fuel.
Linda's doctor explained what those two things are.
**The activation signal is capsaicin.**
That's the compound in cayenne pepper that makes it spicy.
But not regular cayenne. Concentrated capsaicin extract.
Capsaicin activates something called TRPV1 receptors inside your blood vessels.
When TRPV1 receptors turn on, your body starts producing nitric oxide naturally again.
Think of it like flipping a light switch that's been off for 10 years.
**The raw material is beetroot.**
Specifically, the nitrates in beetroot.
Your body converts those nitrates into nitric oxide.
That's the fuel your vessels need to keep producing it all day long.
# Capsaicin turns the switch ON. Beetroot keeps it ON.
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If you only take capsaicin, your body gets the activation signal.
But without the raw materials, production stops after a few hours.
Like turning on a car with no gas.
If you only take beetroot, your body has the fuel.
But if the switch isn't turned on, your body doesn't know to convert it into nitric oxide.
Like having gas in the tank but a dead battery.
**Together, they restore what your medications never could.**
Natural, continuous nitric oxide production.
Your vessels start regulating on their own again.
I sat there thinking about this.
Then I told Linda something.
"I tried beetroot capsules for months. They didn't do anything."
She nodded.
**"That's what I said too."**
Linda told me her doctor explained why capsules don't work.
And it made me angry when I heard it.
Here's the truth about those beetroot capsules you bought at CVS or Vitamin Shoppe.
# Your stomach acid destroys 92% of capsule beetroot before it reaches your blood.
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When you swallow a beetroot capsule, it goes to your stomach.
Stomach acid breaks it down.
Most of the active compounds get destroyed.
Only about 3 to 8% actually makes it into your bloodstream.
The rest ends up in your toilet.
Same thing with cayenne capsules.
Most cayenne supplements are just ground-up cayenne powder.
Not concentrated. Not standardized.
Weak.
And even if some of it survives your stomach acid, it's not strong enough to activate those TRPV1 receptors.
**You've been flushing $20 a month down the toilet.**
Here's what pharmaceutical companies know that supplement companies don't tell you.
When drug companies make Losartan or Metoprolol, they spend millions of dollars engineering them to survive digestion.
Special coatings. Controlled-release formulas. Absorption enhancers.
They make sure the medication gets INTO your bloodstream.
But that $19 bottle of beetroot capsules?
No engineering. No absorption technology.
Just powder in a capsule.
Linda's doctor told her the only way capsaicin and beetroot actually work is if they bypass your stomach completely.
**That's where liquid comes in.**
When you take liquid drops under your tongue, something different happens.
The liquid absorbs through the soft tissue in your mouth.
It goes straight into your bloodstream in 8 to 12 minutes.
No stomach acid. No destruction. No waste.
@count: 95% | Liquid absorption rate
@count: 8% | Capsule absorption rate
But there's one more thing that matters.
**Concentration.**
Most beetroot supplements are 1-to-1 powder.
That means one pound of beetroot becomes one pound of powder.
Nothing concentrated. Nothing extracted.
Clinical formulas use 20-to-1 or 30-to-1 concentrations.
**That means 20 pounds of cayenne get concentrated into 1 pound of pure extract.**
**Or 30 pounds of beetroot get concentrated into 1 pound of pure extract.**
Twenty times stronger. Thirty times stronger.
That's the difference between capsules that don't work and formulas that do.
Linda started taking the liquid formula her doctor recommended.
She kept taking her Lisinopril and Metoprolol at first.
Her doctor said, "We're not stopping your medications yet. We're teaching your vessels to work again."
Within two weeks, something changed.
Week two, Linda noticed she wasn't exhausted by 2pm anymore.
She'd been collapsing into a chair every afternoon for years.
Couldn't keep her eyes open.
That second week, she made it to dinner without needing to sit down.
She also started sleeping through the night.
No waking up at 3am. No restlessness.
Just sleep.
Her husband noticed before she said anything.
"You seem different," he told her.
By week four, her blood pressure readings started stabilizing.
Not perfect. But better.
Instead of bouncing from 158 to 110 to 145, she was seeing 138 to 132 to 135.
Still on her medications. But the swings were getting smaller.
[TIMELINE]
Week 2: Exhaustion lifting, sleeping through the night
Week 4: Blood pressure swings reducing (138-135 range)
Week 8: Doctor appointment, endothelial function test
Month 4: Off both medications, stable 125-132 readings
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Week eight, she had a follow-up appointment with her doctor.
He looked at her home readings from the past two months.
Then he ran tests.
Endothelial function test. It measures how well your blood vessels respond.
Two months earlier, Linda's score was 4.1%.
Normal is above 10%.
After eight weeks, her score was 9.8%.
# Her doctor looked at the numbers three times and said, "I've never seen this kind of improvement."
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He asked her what she'd changed.
She told him about the liquid formula. The capsaicin and beetroot.
He wrote it down.
Then he said something that changed everything.
**"Let's start tapering your Metoprolol."**
He cut her dose in half. Told her to keep monitoring.
By month four, Linda was off both medications completely.
Her blood pressure: 125 to 132. Every day.
More stable than it had been in 14 years.
Her energy was back. She was sleeping. She felt like herself again.
++**Her husband grabbed her hand one night and said, "I forgot what it was like when you felt good."**++
I asked Linda if it worked every single day.
She was honest.
*"Not perfect every day. Some mornings I'm 138. Some I'm 128. But it's stable. It doesn't swing 40 points anymore."*
*"And I don't feel like I'm being strangled by medications."*
That's when I asked her what her doctor had recommended.
Linda told me the name.
**Nadesse Flush.**
It's a liquid formula. Drops you take under your tongue.
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It contains the two ingredients her doctor explained:
[INGREDIENTS]
20:1 Capsicum Annuum Extract | @image:7 | Concentrated cayenne with standardized capsaicin. 20 pounds of organic cayenne concentrated into 1 pound of extract. Activates TRPV1 receptors to trigger natural nitric oxide production.
30:1 Beta Vulgaris Extract | @image:8 | Concentrated organic beetroot with nitrate precursors. 30 pounds of beetroot concentrated into 1 pound of extract. Your body converts these nitrates into nitric oxide.
Hawthorn Berry | @image:9 | Used in Europe for cardiovascular support. Supports heart function and circulation.
Turmeric Curcumin | @image:10 | Addresses arterial inflammation that contributes to blood pressure issues.
Vitamin D3 + K2 | @image:11 | Critical for arterial elasticity and cardiovascular function.
Berberine | @image:12 | Supports metabolic factors affecting blood pressure, especially with insulin resistance.
[/INGREDIENTS]
Linda was very clear about one thing.
**This is NOT a replacement for your medications.**
Not initially. Not without your doctor monitoring you.
She kept taking her Lisinopril and Metoprolol for the first two months.
The liquid formula worked alongside her medications.
It wasn't about stopping her pills overnight.
~~~It was about giving her vessels what they needed to start working on their own again.~~~
Her doctor monitored her. Watched her readings stabilize. Ran tests.
Only when her endothelial function improved and her readings stayed consistent did he begin tapering her medications.
That's the responsible way to do this.
I had questions when Linda told me about this.
You probably have the same ones.
**Is this safe with my current medications?**
Linda's doctor approved it because the ingredients are natural compounds that don't interfere with blood pressure medications.
Capsaicin and beetroot support your body's natural processes. They don't block or override anything.
In fact, capsaicin actually improves insulin sensitivity. If you're diabetic like many people on blood pressure medications, that's a benefit.
**What if it doesn't work for me?**
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That's three full months to see if your readings stabilize. If your hands warm up. If the exhaustion lifts. If your vessels start working on their own again.
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**Do I have to stop my medications?**
No.
Linda didn't stop hers for two months.
You keep taking your medications. You monitor your blood pressure daily like you already do.
You watch for what Linda watched for: readings that stop bouncing.
Your doctor is the one who decides when or if to taper your medications.
This isn't about rebelling against your doctor.
**It's about giving your body what your medications don't provide: the ability to make nitric oxide naturally again.**
Linda still checks her blood pressure every day. She's responsible about it.
Her doctor supported this approach because it made biological sense.
It addressed the root cause instead of just managing symptoms.
You're at a choice point now.
You can see two paths clearly.
**Path 1:**
Keep taking your medications.
Hope the next dose increase works.
Accept that the cold hands, exhaustion, and swollen ankles are just "side effects you have to live with."
Watch your readings continue to bounce 30 to 50 points a day.
Trust that managing symptoms is the same as fixing the problem.
**Path 2:**
Address the nitric oxide depletion your medications don't fix.
Give your blood vessels what they need to start making nitric oxide on their own again.
Work with your doctor. Monitor your progress.
See if your readings stabilize the way Linda's did.
After years of doing exactly what your doctor told you to do, you've earned the right to question whether it's working.
Your body is trying to tell you something.
!!**The erratic readings aren't your body failing.**!!
!!**They're your body asking for something your medications can't provide.**!!
Linda didn't throw her pill bottles in the trash on day one.
She didn't stop listening to her doctor.
She gave her vessels a chance to remember how to work.
And her doctor supported it because the approach addressed biology, not just symptoms.
You're not being a "bad patient" by addressing root cause.
You're being responsible.
Linda told me it was the first thing in 14 years that addressed why her blood pressure was erratic instead of just managing the numbers.
If your blood pressure bounces 30 to 50 points a day despite medications, your vessels are asking for help.
**You have 90 days to see what Linda saw.**
That's enough time to see if your readings stabilize.
If your husband notices your hands are warm.
If the 2pm exhaustion lifts.
If you can sleep through the night without Metoprolol nightmares.
Keep taking your medications while you try this.
Monitor your blood pressure like you already do.
Work with your doctor the way Linda did.
**Three months to see if your vessels can remember.**
**Three months to see if you can feel like yourself again.**
**Three months to address what 10 years of medications never fixed.**
Nadesse is a small operation. They make batches as orders come in.
When current stock runs out, there's usually a two-to-three-week wait for the next batch.
Linda said she wished someone had told her about this 14 years ago.
I wish someone had told me 11 years ago.
I'm telling you now.
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14 Comments
C | Margaret H. | 4d | 127 | like,love,care | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | I've been on Metoprolol and Lisinopril for 11 years. The nightmares are every single night at 3am. My doctor just says "that's a known side effect" like I'm supposed to live with it forever. This article made me cry because I thought I was the only one who felt worse on the pills than before them.
R | Sandra K. | 4d | 89 | like,love | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Margaret you're NOT crazy. I had the same nightmares for 6 years on Metoprolol. My doctor kept increasing it when my numbers didn't stabilize. The nightmares got worse. I started the liquid drops 8 weeks ago and I've slept through the night for the first time in YEARS. Still on my meds but my doctor is watching my numbers and they're finally steady.
R | Margaret H. | 3d | 34 | like | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Sandra did you tell your doctor about trying this? I'm terrified to do anything without asking him first but I also know he'll just say stick with the pills.
R | Sandra K. | 3d | 56 | like,care | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | I did tell him. He wasn't familiar with it but he said as long as I kept taking my medications and monitored my BP he didn't see a problem with trying it. He was honestly shocked when my numbers stabilized. Now he's asking ME about it.
C | Robert M. | 3d | 92 | like,wow | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | I doubled my Losartan from 50mg to 100mg last year. My pressure still bounces from 148 to 112 to 155 all in one day. My cardiologist wants to add Amlodipine now. After reading this I asked him "why would three medications work if two don't?" He didn't have a good answer. Just said "that's the protocol."
R | James T. | 3d | 67 | like | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Robert that's the exact question I asked my doctor. He actually admitted that adding more medications just covers gaps but doesn't fix why the vessels aren't regulating. That's when I decided to try addressing the nitric oxide thing. Been 5 weeks and my swings are getting smaller.
R | Robert M. | 2d | 23 | like | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Did you stop your Losartan or are you taking both?
R | James T. | 2d | 41 | care | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Still taking the Losartan. My doctor said keep taking it while we see if this works. I'm not trying to go off my meds without supervision. But if my readings stay stable for another month he said we can talk about tapering.
C | Linda S. | 5d | 156 | like,love,care,wow | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | My husband grabbed my hand two nights ago and said "they're warm." I started crying. He said "when did that happen?" I've had ice cold hands for 9 years on Metoprolol. My grandson wouldn't hold them. 18 days on this and they're warm. My husband noticed before I even told him I was trying something.
R | Carol R. | 5d | 78 | love,care | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Linda this made me tear up. My grandkids pull away from my hands too. How long did it take before your husband noticed?
R | Linda S. | 4d | 89 | love | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | About 2.5 weeks. I didn't say anything to him because I didn't want to get my hopes up. But HE noticed. That's what convinced me this is real.
C | Patricia W. | 2d | 43 | like | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | I'm skeptical. I tried beetroot capsules from CVS for 4 months. Turmeric too. Nothing changed. How is this different? Sounds like the same ingredients I already wasted money on.
R | Karen B. | 2d | 67 | like | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Patricia I said the EXACT same thing. The article explains it but basically those capsules get destroyed in your stomach. Only like 3% actually gets in your blood. This is liquid you take under your tongue so it doesn't go through your stomach. I was skeptical too but after reading the part about absorption I at least understood why the capsules didn't work.
R | Patricia W. | 1d | 31 | like | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Okay that makes sense. I guess I didn't waste 4 months being stupid, I just had the wrong delivery method. I'll look into it.
C | Michael D. | 6d | 134 | like,care | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | I'm 73. Been on Lisinopril and HCTZ for 19 years. My pressure still goes from 162 to 108 to 156 in one day. I'm exhausted. I can barely make it to 2pm. My doctor says "that's just aging." I'm not even 75 yet and I feel 90. Is this really safe to try with my current medications?
R | Dr. Sarah Chen | 5d | 201 | like,care | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Michael I'm a cardiologist (not selling anything just saw this article). The ingredients here are natural vasodilators and don't have known interactions with Lisinopril or HCTZ. That said you should tell your doctor you're trying it and monitor your BP daily like you probably already do. If your readings drop consistently your doctor may need to adjust your medications. Don't stop anything on your own.
R | Michael D. | 5d | 89 | like,care | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Thank you Dr. Chen. I'll bring it up at my appointment next week. I just can't keep living like this.
C | Diane K. | 3d | 112 | like,love | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | I ordered this 3 days ago after reading twice and then reading all these comments. My doctor has me on Amlodipine, Losartan, and Carvedilol. Three different medications and my ankles are still swollen like tree trunks by 4pm every day. I'm not expecting miracles but if it helps even a little I'll be happy. The 90 day guarantee made me feel safe trying it.
R | Nancy L. | 2d | 67 | like | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Diane let us know how it goes. I'm in the same boat with the ankle swelling from Amlodipine. My doctor says it's a "side effect I have to accept."
R | Diane K. | 1d | 45 | like | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Nancy I will. I figure I have 90 days to see if it does anything. If not I'm not out anything. But after reading this and seeing all these comments from people like us I had to at least try.
C | Thomas R. | 4d | 87 | like | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | My wife has been on three BP medications for 14 years. She's miserable. Exhausted all the time. Cold hands. Nightmares. I showed her this article and she cried. She said "I thought I just had to live like this." We're going to talk to her doctor about trying this. Even if it just helps with the side effects it would be worth it.
R | Susan M. | 3d | 56 | care | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Thomas your wife is lucky to have you advocating for her. A lot of us just accept what our doctors say without questioning. I wish my husband would help me figure this stuff out.
C | Barbara J. | 5d | 98 | like,love | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | I've been taking this for 6 weeks now. Still on my Metoprolol but my doctor ran my endothelial function test two weeks ago and he literally said "I don't know what you're doing but keep doing it." My score went from 4.2% to 8.9%. He's never seen that kind of improvement. We're talking about cutting my Metoprolol dose in half next month.
R | Elizabeth F. | 4d | 78 | wow,care | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Barbara what is an endothelial function test? My doctor has never mentioned that.
R | Barbara J. | 4d | 62 | like | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Elizabeth it measures how well your blood vessels can dilate and constrict on their own. Mine was really low which meant my vessels weren't working naturally. After 6 weeks it's almost in the normal range. Your doctor might not routinely test it but you can ask.
C | Richard H. | 2d | 71 | like | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | I'm 68 and tired of being on pills. But I'm also scared to death of a stroke. My dad died of one at 72. This article makes sense but I keep thinking "what if I stop my medications and something happens?" How do I know when it's safe?
R | Sandra K. | 2d | 89 | care | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Richard you DON'T stop your medications. That's not what this is about. You keep taking them and ADD this to give your vessels what they need. Then your DOCTOR decides if and when to reduce your meds based on your numbers. Nobody here is saying throw your pills away. We're saying address what the pills don't fix.
R | Richard H. | 1d | 43 | like,care | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | Okay that makes me feel better. I thought this was one of those "natural cure throw away your prescriptions" things. If I can try it while staying on my medications that's different.
C | Joyce M. | 1d | 54 | like,love | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0697/5166/8911/files/fb_pfp.png?v=1770368648 | null | I just placed my order. I've been on Lisinopril for 12 years and my readings are still all over the place. 142 to 109 to 155 in one day. My doctor keeps saying the medication is working but my numbers say otherwise. After reading this article and all these comments from people exactly like me I decided I have nothing to lose with the 90 day guarantee. I'll update in a few weeks.
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